Episode 475 - Planning our Show in the South Sandwich Islands

Hello boys and girls, 

Welcome to Episode 475 of The Motorcycle Men Podcast! Tonight, Ted, Tim, Chris, and Justin are back in the shed and ready to unleash another round of motorcycle talk, questionable insights, and the kind of laughter that only happens when four grown men pretend to run a professional show.

We’re catching up on a whole lineup of recent interviews — from the creators of the rock opera Suzy the Cycle Witch, to ADV guru Bret Tkacs, to roadside‑oddity legend Doug Kirby, to Holly Duttera of Ohio Bike Week, and even Norm Kern from the Motorcycle Sport Touring Association. If it’s got wheels, weirdness, or a story, we’ve talked to it.

We’ll also dive into the National Days Calendar because apparently May is everything month: Paper Airplane Day, Blueberry Cheesecake Day, National Hamburger Month, National Barbecue Month, National Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month, and even International Drum Month. Basically, if you can celebrate it, someone decided May was the time.

Then it’s on to the stats — 468,879 downloads and counting. North America still leads the pack, Chicago is still our biggest U.S. city, and yes… we lost our listener in the South Sandwich Islands. But we picked up folks in Iceland, Bermuda, Cuba, Zimbabwe, and even Madagascar. The global weirdness continues.

We’ll hit the BINIT, talk about Woody’s Ireland adventure, E15 fuel approvals, Harley‑Davidson products that aren’t motorcycles, and the Motorcycle Podcasters Challenge.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:24

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Oh thing.

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Cool beans.

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So anyway. You guys want to get started?

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Get it on.

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I'm in my spaceship. One momento. I'm circling Alpha Centauri. You would think.

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I want to do what I wanted to do.

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Meeting tools. Da da. Start. And. Hello, boys and girls, and welcome to the Motorcycle Men podcast. This is episode 475. And here we are in the V Twin Cafe in sunny downtown Cranford, New Jersey. Big lie. But we are here, and uh we have the whole crew here. You know, we have the usual bunch. You know what I should do? I should get myself organized, you know. No.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Well, that's something you might want to do prior, but yeah, you know what?

SPEAKER_08 1:48

I've done everything else prior except for that. Uh okay. Why is that not working? That's weird. Oh, here it is. Anyway, so I am Ted, your host here in the V Twin Cafe, and my sounds aren't working again. Of course. Why not? Why would they? Right? Why would they not work? That's okay. It's just you know, it's difficult. Come on. Hang on a second. Just bear with me for a moment. We're gonna have to do a I'm just I see what's wrong here. I see what's wrong. Okay, we go. Never mind. We're good. Alright, anyway, here in the V Twin Cafe in the corner booth, as always. Joining me as always is Tim Buck2 here in the corner booth. And uh Chris Joker Nipples guy, and naturally we have Justin Brown. What is that?

SPEAKER_06 2:42

What is that? What are you flashing on the screen there?

SPEAKER_08 2:44

Oh, that's your camera. That's your camera. Okay, cool. I got a mirror. How's it going, dudes? It's going. Yeah. We haven't chatted in quite a while. It's been several weeks. It's been one, two, three, four, five weeks. Wow. Since we chatted last. Five whole weeks.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

And uh, you know, and things. You're the fearless leader, so we have to follow the fearless leader.

SPEAKER_08 3:06

I don't know about fearless, but you know, it's it's a sole thing. But um anyway. So, um Justin, how are you?

SPEAKER_04 3:20

Justin? Justin's having technical difficulties. He's having problems.

SPEAKER_08 3:25

He's having technical difficulties. No, no, he's having justicle problems. I don't know if that's a thing, but it's having testicle problems? It's like a testicle problem. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 3:35

We can say anything we want because he can't respond.

SPEAKER_08 3:37

He can't respond, right, because he can hear us or whatever. How are you doing, Tim?

SPEAKER_04 3:41

I R B O.

SPEAKER_08 3:43

I see you every day, so I really don't need to ask that. I see you every single day. We go on we go on walks with the dogs, and I watch you I watch you pick up poop.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

So fight for mercy.

SPEAKER_08 3:55

And me, uh Chris, what's going on with you, man?

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Uh same shit, different day.

SPEAKER_08 4:00

Same shit, different day. Did you enjoy your memorial weekend?

SPEAKER_01 4:04

No. No. It rained every fucking day. Yeah, I know, man. Wow. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_08 4:08

I can hear you now.

SPEAKER_09 4:10

Okay. I don't know what happened. I was talking to you the whole time, and then you guys were like, hello. I was like, oh fuck, they can't hear me.

SPEAKER_10 4:15

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 4:16

It it rained uh the whole time, and then yesterday at like what, five o'clock, the sun came out and it got nice, like when it was all over.

SPEAKER_07 4:26

Isn't that the way it always happens, though?

SPEAKER_09 4:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 4:28

That's what it's supposed to do. It's supposed to get be crappy and then get nice just as the day ends. That's of course. Who's been uh who's been riding? Like obviously, Chris, you didn't ride. None of you guys didn't ride at all, but have you guys have been doing any riding whatsoever?

SPEAKER_01 4:42

You have supposed to none. Yeah. Because it ra it rained all the way up until yesterday morning. I mean, eventually got nice out later on and you know, Memorial Day.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

But later on, but in the morning, I mean, I got up uh at eight o'clock and it was still raining. It was like parking ridiculous. Wow. Then the sun came out probably about four or five o'clock.

SPEAKER_06 5:06

Yeah, of course. Perfect.

SPEAKER_08 5:07

Perfect. Excellent.

SPEAKER_09 5:09

Hey Justin, did you ever uh get your uh I haven't yet, but I'm gonna soon. I I think uh I think I think I can do it.

SPEAKER_06 5:18

Yeah, you think you you think so?

SPEAKER_09 5:20

I think so.

SPEAKER_06 5:21

Yeah, you're you're functional again? I'm feeling alright. Oh good, awesome.

SPEAKER_04 5:26

Feeling alright. I feel good myself.

SPEAKER_08 5:30

And we break into song. That's good. Well, cool. So things have been busy. You know, I've been been talking to a lot of people, had a lot of uh interviews over the past five, six weeks. And uh so things have been happening. There's a lot going on. So let me tell you about it right now. Uh I had these interviews I had. Uh I interviewed the creators of this rock opera called Susie the Cycle Witch. And I met them over at uh the uh one-year anniversary party over at uh Seabree's Harley Davidson. And uh so it's it's a rock opera, and it's the they wrote all the music. And the guy, the the story behind it is the guy wrote this rock opera about 50, 60 years ago. 50 years ago. And he put it away, and that was the end of it. And then they moved, him and his wife moved, and they found everything. So they decided to bring it to life. So they did, and they used AI to create videos for the songs.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Really?

SPEAKER_08 6:31

Yeah. And so if you look go to YouTube and look up Suzy the Cycle Witch, uh, you'll see that uh Yeah, we talked about this last time. Uh I at the time I was uh I was going to be having the interview with them, but it hadn't happened. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 6:48

I remember I remember hearing about this, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 6:50

So but I had a chance to talk to them what they all the things that they did and how to go through and make it. And it was it's really super interesting to look at these videos, and you you don't realize it, but none of these people in these videos are real people. It's all AI. Every bit of it.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

But you could you could tell.

SPEAKER_08 7:13

You can tell. You can tell.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

If you look at it, yeah, I mean, if you know what you're looking at, I mean, uh, it doesn't fool me. I would have caught it right off the bat. It looks it looks like AI.

SPEAKER_08 7:21

Yeah, you can you can definitely tell because there's a lot of AI doesn't a lot of movements that aren't natural.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Yeah, not only especially when they talk.

SPEAKER_08 7:29

Yeah, and not only that, but you you you can see that there are uh some elements, it just doesn't produce some things. It's not perfect. It doesn't produce some things really well. Um you know, like just a just as an example, the motorcycles sometimes just don't look right, you know, in these videos. But you know, I get it, it's pretty cool. They they they they created this thing, and it's pretty neat. It's pretty neat. But they've got uh 11 parts, uh 11 videos out.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yeah, I'm looking at one of them now.

SPEAKER_08 8:03

Yeah, uh, it's actually pretty cool. So if you gotta get to check something out, it's pretty neat. Uh check out Suzy the Cycle Witch on YouTube. Uh they created this whole thing. It's pretty neat. Uh I also had an interview with Norm Kern of the Motorcycle Motorcycle Sport Touring Association. So if you're into sport touring, this association is for you. Um it was it was an interesting interview. It was okay. It was okay. I you know, one of the things I tell people when they're when I'm doing an interview, or I send them out questions and talk to them about it. I say, listen, don't script your answers. Just this is what's coming. This is what I might ask you. So just you know, okay, take that into account, and then give me an answer when I ask you a question. Just off the top of your head, right? This dude had every answer scripted out, and he read from a piece of paper.

SPEAKER_09 8:55

I was like, ah man.

SPEAKER_04 8:59

What do you got?

SPEAKER_08 9:01

Yes, it was very robotic, and I had to stop him. I had to stop him a couple times uh because it he got uh his he had a very bad he was on a cell phone. I told everybody don't don't give me a cell phone interview, right? And he was on a cell phone. Crapped out my spoke with Holly De Tura of uh Ohio Bike Week, which is happening this week. In fact, what's today, the 26th? Yes, it's happening this week, Ohio Bike Week. So if you're in the Ohio area, head on up to Sandusky and get be a part of the the whole thing that's going on there. Uh I I I keep promising that I'm gonna make it up to Ohio Bike Week, and I just never can get up there, you know. But it's Ohio. And I spoke with Doug Kirby of Roadside America. And we talked about some of it. Yeah. Which I'll which I'm gonna bring up again later on in the podcast. But uh although if you're interested in roadside oddities and the such, uh check out roadsideamerica.com and you'll get to see all the weird shit that's out there. And finally, I had an interview with Brett Tax, and he's an ADV riding instructor, and we talked about ADV riding skills and motorcycle skills in general. So that's what I've been doing. Been busy on the interview area. In fact, I have another interview coming up on Thursday. Our good friend Larry Marshall is doing a 100th anniversary of Route 66 tour.

SPEAKER_09 10:33

Nice.

SPEAKER_08 10:34

Yeah, so he's uh he's he's gonna be in the middle of that tour, and he he's threatened to me with Eric. Oh, in the interview. So uh Eric's coming out. So we're gonna see what happens. Um other things we're gonna bring up is right now is uh I'm gonna go over the now. We haven't done this in a long time, but it's the national days calendar.

SPEAKER_10 10:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:56

Today is National Paper Airplane Day. It's also uh, and this goes, I guess, I guess this could go for everybody except for Justin. It's older Americans Day.

SPEAKER_09 11:10

I appreciate that. Older Americans Day.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

I like that.

SPEAKER_08 11:15

Uh it's also National Military Appreciation Month. And and here is another interesting thing. Um, the next few are all uh, with the exception of the first one, all the rest of them are month. The May is month of this. So, but today is National Blueberry Cheesecake Day. It is also National Hamburger Month. You're gonna detect the theme any moment now. It's National Egg Month, National Barbecue Month, National Salsa Month.

SPEAKER_09 11:46

So basically everything that you would have at your Memorial Day party.

SPEAKER_08 11:49

Yeah. Uh National American Cheese Month, National Salad Month. See, after you've had everything else, now you go to the salad, and then it's National Asparagus Month. And of course it's uh Chris, you might might know this, maybe not. It's International Drum Month.

SPEAKER_06 12:07

Oh. See?

SPEAKER_08 12:09

And it's also National Bicycle Month, and finally, it's National Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month.

SPEAKER_09 12:15

I thought you were gonna say National Motorcycle Men Day.

SPEAKER_08 12:18

No.

SPEAKER_09 12:19

It finally happened, and I thought you that was why you brought it back.

SPEAKER_07 12:22

Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_09 12:23

You baited me! You fucking set the hook! Oh my god. Gotcha. You got me.

SPEAKER_08 12:33

I'm trying. I'm still trying. I don't, you know, it's it's it's a hard sell. It's a very hard sell.

SPEAKER_09 12:40

It I don't believe that because of all the other things that you just listed. This is true. You're like, oh, it's like national square folded napkin day. Oh, but no, I'm sorry. We're all fucked up. We don't have any more like motorcycle. Uh that's crazy. That's crazy. None of that, none of that checks out.

SPEAKER_08 12:58

I I I know. I I don't make the rules. I barely follow them, but uh that's where we're at. Um for fun, uh I'm gonna I'm gonna go over the stats. I think some of this stuff is pretty interesting. Uh uh, we are to date, right now, to this moment today, we've had 468,879 downloads of the podcast. Nice picture, Chris. So how many? 468,879 downloads.

SPEAKER_09 13:28

What's crazy is that's almost equivalent to the 500th episode number.

SPEAKER_08 13:34

Right, almost.

SPEAKER_09 13:35

It's 475 episodes, 468,000 downloads. That's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_08 13:39

So we have roughly 31,000 in change until we have the 500,000 download. And will it coincide with our 500th?

SPEAKER_09 13:50

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. You know, we got I'm just gonna I'm gonna turn on every laptop and cell phone I got and start downloading stuff. Make it up. Uh what are they, those bot farms?

SPEAKER_08 14:03

Yeah, yeah, right, right, exactly. Yeah. Do that. Uh with regard to downloads, episode 232 with itchy boots is still the most downloaded episode with over 6,500 downloads on that one episode alone. Uh now, as far as it goes for the downloads, North America is take 79% of our downloads, Europe with 12%, Southeast Asia with 4%, Asia with 3%, Africa and South America are each at 1% of our downloads. So that's where we're at then. Africa, nice. Here's an interesting thing. Chicago is the city with the most downloads in America at this time. And San Francisco is number two, which just blew me away. We have one listener in Warsaw, Poland. And we have that's that's in all in in in you know in Europe, and now we have one listener in Falmouth, Maine. So if you're that listener in Falmouth, Maine, we're sorry.

SPEAKER_09 15:04

And Ted would like to send you a sticker.

SPEAKER_08 15:07

I'll send you a sticker. Just email me, let me know you're from Falmouth, Maine, and I'll send you a sticker because you are the one listener we have there. We have 45 listeners in Iceland. We have eight listeners in Bermuda, and if you've ever been to Bermuda, they don't have any big motorcycles there. It's all scooters, pretty much. Uh we have five.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Well, we talk more about lighthouses than than than motorcycles anymore. You tell me one time they had a Harley Davidson store there, though.

SPEAKER_08 15:37

They do, they do, absolutely. That's it. Well, that's an Aruba. In Aruba, they have, yeah. Which really cracks me up because there's not a lot of riding in Aruba. You can't even ride around the island. Well, you could, but most of it's dirt. Um we have this uh this amazes me. We have five listeners in Cuba.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

I can't believe that.

SPEAKER_08 15:55

Yeah. Uh we still have our four listeners in Zimbabwe. They're still there. Uh we have one listener in Madagascar. Cool. We lost our listener in the South Sandwich Islands.

SPEAKER_04 16:11

Oh yeah, all gone. We were the only one talking about that.

SPEAKER_08 16:18

But we still have the South Sandwich Islands Moto Club. So if anybody wants to join or whatever. But yeah, we lost that. I was I was kind of disappointed not to not see that on the on the list. I was really kind of bummed out when that didn't happen. But uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

But they probably went back to their normal life. Yeah, you know what it is because if you're down there, you're a researcher.

SPEAKER_08 16:41

Exactly. In fact, funny, funny story. You know that boat that with that cruise ship that was out there and that uh hantavirus thing that was uh that happened, right? It do you know that that thing left South America and went to the South Sandwich Islands? Nice wow and then they left there, headed back to wherever they were headed back to, and that's when the virus happened. So did it come from South America or did it come from the South Sandwich Islands?

SPEAKER_01 17:10

I'm gonna say South America.

SPEAKER_08 17:12

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

How did rats get on the boat?

SPEAKER_01 17:20

Exactly. Yeah. That's that's from South America. That ain't from there ain't no rats down South Samuels Island.

SPEAKER_09 17:25

Nothing's living down there. But if there were, I can understand why they'd get on a boat right now. There's no food down here.

SPEAKER_08 17:39

Oh man. I really want to go there. I really want to go there. Just at least just a trip see it.

SPEAKER_09 17:48

How long are we gonna do the 500th episode there?

SPEAKER_08 17:50

That would be badass, dude.

SPEAKER_04 17:53

How far where is that? How long is it taking to get there?

SPEAKER_08 17:55

Uh it's 1,500 miles uh southeast of um the Falkland Islands is South America.

SPEAKER_04 18:05

So it would take you a couple days to get there, though.

SPEAKER_08 18:08

I don't know. I mean, we can ask, we can ask uh there can't even be that easy of a route.

SPEAKER_09 18:15

Like, you've gotta there's gotta be multiple modes of transportation to get there.

SPEAKER_08 18:20

No, the only way to get it. No, no. The only way to get there is by ship.

SPEAKER_09 18:26

Right, but that's what I'm saying. You'd have to like you'd have to like take a you're like taking a plane, you're taking a boat, you're doing all kinds of stuff. You're not just going there.

SPEAKER_08 18:35

Right, yeah. Uh here we go. Uh all right, so how long does it take to sail from the Falkland Islands through the South Sandwich Islands? And the answer is four to seven days. Normal expedition vessel is usually uh eight to twelve knots, so four to seven days. So it's roughly 1,300 to 1,500 miles. Okay, so there you go. Now we know.

SPEAKER_09 18:59

So you would have to get to the Falkland Islands and then it's a week?

SPEAKER_08 19:02

Then it's a week from there, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 19:06

How long does it take to get to the Falkland Islands?

SPEAKER_08 19:09

Uh I don't know how many flights can we have? How long are we going to be?

SPEAKER_09 19:15

Well, you're two you're a two-week round, you're a two-week round trip, even if you just went there, took a picture in front of the fucking pizza hut, and left.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

I'm sorry. The whole trip sounds like a movie that's gonna go horribly wrong. Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_08 19:30

It does. Absolutely. It has all the makings of a horror movie.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Exactly, it does. You get over there and then the island is full of creatures.

SPEAKER_08 19:38

The short answer, it takes about 31 to 34 hours of total travel time to get from New York to the Falkland Islands, including flights and transfers. There are no direct flights, so all routes require connections through South America. So there you go. You have to go from JFK to Santiago, Punta Arenas to Mount Pleasant, and then to uh yeah, Falkland Islands. And then okay, yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 20:04

Can you imagine? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 20:07

Wow, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 20:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

I'm trying to see if there's any airports in the furthest south.

SPEAKER_08 20:13

So you gotta look so you gotta look at it.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Are there any airports down there? That's she in the air.

SPEAKER_08 20:18

In the Falkland Islands, there is one airport in the Falkland Islands.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

But I bet you the one, the, the uh like I said, they probably get to like say like the Sandwich Islands is probably either by boat or special aircraft, meaning that there's no airport there, but they fly down there with a research team.

SPEAKER_08 20:33

I don't know. I mean, there's no place, there's no airfields there at all.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

That's what I'm saying. They probably by boat or special aircraft.

SPEAKER_08 20:40

No, uh water plane.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Yeah, water plane.

SPEAKER_08 20:43

You know, yeah, flying boat. Right. Coming in from so you know, the helicopter run from the ship.

SPEAKER_04 20:49

Come on, you could jump out of a with a parachute.

SPEAKER_08 20:51

The ship docks at um that that research station that's down there at in Gridviken, that's where it docks. So, yeah, I mean, oh my god.

SPEAKER_09 21:00

So you're looking at the weather's gonna be crazy too.

SPEAKER_08 21:03

Like, well, you'd have to go, well, this this is southern hemisphere, so you'd have to go in the summer months. No, you'd have to go in the winter months here, because down there it would be summer.

SPEAKER_09 21:14

But I'm saying, like, even just like if you're if you're crossing that much of the ocean, there's no way that it's just gonna be like smooth sailing the whole time. Oh, hell no. But there's gonna be a day where you can't see land in any direction, and the waves are just ridiculous, and you're sitting there going, why on earth did I do this?

SPEAKER_08 21:34

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree. Uh so you can't.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Well you can fly you could fly to Argentina Boto.

SPEAKER_08 21:42

Well, from Argentina, then you get over to the Falcon Islands, which is right off the coast of Argentina, and then you sail from there. So uh you're let's look at so so we got thirty-four hours of travel time to get there. So like you two days right there. Then you got uh seven days there. And then another seven days back. And then another two days. So you're looking at so three weeks of travel just to get there.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

To do a one hour podcast. To do a one hour podcast.

SPEAKER_10 22:16

That's funny.

SPEAKER_08 22:17

But that would be awesome, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_04 22:19

Oh, sure. That's a fun listing, huh?

SPEAKER_08 22:21

We'll do our we'll do our th our 1,000th episode.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

Well, there's our movie. We're gonna write a movie about going down to South.

SPEAKER_08 22:28

Just to do a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

And we end up doing a podcast to big walrus.

SPEAKER_07 22:36

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 22:37

You know, and and dead wall and dead whales.

SPEAKER_08 22:41

And fish and fish everywhere, and you know, seagulls and all that. Yeah. Sure, why not? It'd be fun.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Probably no fucking seagulls down here either from the pictures like that.

SPEAKER_08 22:49

There are some birds there.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

I don't know what kind of birds are, but yeah.

SPEAKER_08 22:53

That would be kind of funny, though. Anyway, and other and other stuff, uh, Woody went to Ireland. Oh, nice. Yeah, no, he went there.

SPEAKER_04 23:05

Finally, you finally heard from Woody.

SPEAKER_08 23:07

So Furman, uh, if you guys remember Furman, uh, he was uh he uh he's a listener of the podcast. So he uh had told me uh several months back that he would be going to uh Ireland and initially it was gonna be him and his wife, uh, but his wife got sick and uh unfortunately she passed away. It was a cancer thing. So, but uh she uh anyway he rebooked the trip and he decided to bring some of her ashes with him to spread her ashes around uh Ireland. And he went on a trip and he was kind enough to send me some photographs of um Woody uh on a trip. Let me see if I can get one of these photographs up here. Yeah. There we go. Let me sh share the screen so you guys can see. But anyway, yeah, it was um it was really cool the the to see that uh Woody was a fact. I think Woody may be back in the States now at this time. But uh yeah, it was so cool. So got these.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Were any pictures taken?

SPEAKER_06 24:08

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 24:09

Uh don't you switch it over right now? So there's the there's the uh bike he uh he rented right there.

SPEAKER_04 24:21

And he's gonna be like, he rented it or bored it.

SPEAKER_08 24:24

No, he rented it. He rented it, yeah. He rented the bike. That's pretty clean. The BMW, yeah. Is that an electric bike? No, no, no, no. Uh it's a look electric. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_03 24:33

Yeah, it does, right?

SPEAKER_08 24:36

Is there is it the 800? I think it's the 800, yeah. So yeah, there's Woody there, and he did give me some other pictures too. Let me see. Yep. It's a GS 800. This is some of the pictures that he sent over. Woody! Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:53

He can take me to Ireland if he wants. Hey, Kenny. Hey, I'm sorry to hear about your lost buddy.

SPEAKER_08 24:59

Thank you, though. Yeah, and I tell you what, the the the pictures are awesome. I mean, it just it it looks so cool there. I would love to do a trip through Ireland like that. It looks beautiful there. It looks really amazing. It reminds me a lot of Iceland. And it's just really, really pretty. Yeah, man. It's a lot of history there.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

And they got castles that are hundreds and hundreds of years old. Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_08 25:30

And uh, but yeah, it was it was it was great to who's that a picture of? That it was his wife. So he had that taped to the windshield of the bike he was riding. Nice. Yeah. So it's a sad story, but uh he he got to spread her ashes around. He had the you know, obviously had some uh some beer while he was traveling. But yeah.

SPEAKER_09 25:52

I mean you got to, right? Yeah, yeah. Of course, isn't that the rule?

SPEAKER_08 25:55

That's the rule. That's the rule. You know, you're traveling in Ireland, you gotta have a you gotta have a beer, at least.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

A biscuit.

SPEAKER_08 26:01

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SPEAKER_05 27:04

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SPEAKER_07 27:32

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SPEAKER_08 27:40

And now the listeners who are get 10% off their order when you use the code Motomen. And your safety is worth it. So get on over there and get into Dave's pants. Um so just a couple little news things here. Now that uh you guys are familiar with the ethanol fuel thing, right? So right now it's in what respect? In well, that there's 10% ethanol in fuels, right? Uh in most in pretty much every state that's there. Some states that's all that's available. Like New Jersey, for example. Uh that's all you can get. But uh in other news is that the House of Representatives has approved uh an increase to E15 fuels.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And that's gonna do what?

SPEAKER_08 28:26

And that's bad because that means instead of 10% ethanol, there'll be 15%. So this is it's being fought by the uh um Motorcycle Riders Foundation. They're fighting it uh because they're pointing out how bad this is for motorcycles and uh in bikes in general, uh and small uh small engines and stuff like that. So uh the legislation, which is H.R. 13 uh 46, the Nationwide Consumer and Fuel Retailer Choice Act, by a vote of 218 to 203, the legislation would allow the year-round sale of E15 gasoline nationwide by removing current seasonal restrictions tied to federal smog regulations. So the Motorcycle Riders Foundation is uh fighting that, and that the debate surrounding E15 was beginning to intensify on Capitol Hill this week. House committee affirmed the fuel policy will remain a major issue for motorcyclists moving forward.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

So now I have to ask this question because I'm I'm a big dummy.

SPEAKER_08 29:33

Okay, well, answer right.

SPEAKER_04 29:35

What does ethanol do?

SPEAKER_08 29:36

What it does is it attracts moisture. So if you have you if you have ethanol-based fuels in your motorcycle and your smaller.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

I thought it burned better. That's actually a good question.

SPEAKER_08 29:48

No.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Quicker.

SPEAKER_08 29:50

They claim they claim that E15 will bive give com com consumers more fuel choices and may help reduce fuel prices. That's that's their argument. Um some are even going as far as to say that it will increase your fuel mounts, which is bullshit. Opponents, however, continue to raise concerns about compatibility with existing vehicles and equipment, including motorcycles and other small engine products not designed for higher ethanol blends. So what the what the ethanol does is over time, if you just let it sit in your tank and don't don't use your bike or whatever machine you have, it will uh attract moisture to your system. Now, I know, and we know what happens when you get water in your fuel and put it in your motorcycle, don't you? Yeah, it runs like crap. Well, yeah, because I have experience. Among other things. Among other things. So that's what ends up happening. I mean, how many times have I had to get rid of a lawnmower? Because I look, I can't repair small engines. I I know nothing about them. I know how to start them, I can change the plugs, I can change the oil. That's about it.

SPEAKER_09 30:55

It's the same thing as your motorcycle.

SPEAKER_08 30:57

Well, in every respect, but if you got a carbureted small engine like that, ethanol will gunk up the works badly. And I have replaced lawnmowers because I couldn't get it to run anymore. And largely because ethanol fuels. I, in fact, when I first got my Sportster, uh, it I couldn't get the the thing was backward running like crap. And I took it over to uh Harley Dealer over here, and I told them what that was going on, and they said I asked them what's going on with it. So after after they I got it back, they said apparently before you got it, it must have sat for a long time, and uh they probably weren't using non-ethanol fuels because the car burger was extremely gunked up and like sort of like a shellac finish on the inside. So they had to take the they had to basically rebuild the car. Yeah, so it will do horrible things to your small engine. So anyway, so that's something that's going on and it's being fought. So contact your representative and uh complain. You know, do that. Uh also uh well uh okay well I guess we can get into this. Uh the motorcycle podcasters challenge. You remember that?

SPEAKER_09 32:07

Yeah, we were talking about this.

SPEAKER_08 32:08

Yeah, okay, it's it's it's alive.

SPEAKER_09 32:11

It's it's based on by who's doing me. So you are doing it.

SPEAKER_08 32:16

Yeah, I brought it back to life. And how are you?

SPEAKER_09 32:19

How are you doing this?

SPEAKER_08 32:20

Uh well, it's gonna be based on the Roadside America thing. Uh there's gonna be a maximum of ten teams, uh, six riders per team, or you can be a solo rider. Uh riders will get one point for each roadside attraction that they photograph and send me a picture of. Okay. There are going to be bonus attractions that will have bonus points applied to those. They will be issued on day one.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

What is considered a roadside attraction?

SPEAKER_08 32:50

Well, this is where they have to look at the roadside America website. And we have experience with the roadside America website from doing the Jeopardy thing, if you recall. That's what we did. Uh I used that a lot. And there were there are uh according to Doug Kirby, who I had interviewed not too long ago, uh, there are upwards to 22,000 roadside attractions around the country. So pick a state, any state. North Carolina. All right, let's pick a state. It's North Carolina. So we go to the map, North Carolina, and they're all these little dots that you see on the map. Uh, if you go to the website and you pick a map, uh you'll see all these little red pins all over the place. Each one of those pins represents a roadside oddity. So what you'll have to do is what what the riders will have to do is basically do their research the night before and then plot a course or whatever to go to this roadside oddity and take a photograph of it and email it to me.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

Now wait a second. You need you make sure you have the people in the picture.

SPEAKER_08 34:01

No, they don't have to.

SPEAKER_04 34:02

What what I'm because they could just take it off the website and send it to the code.

SPEAKER_08 34:05

No, no, no, no, no, no. Well no, no, no, no. What they have to do, um, because each rider is going to get a rider card. The rider card has whether it feels a team or solo, and they're it's got a number. So what they have to do is take a picture of that rider card, their motorcycle, and the attraction. It's really easy to do. So uh we have right now, at this time right now, it now I just released this, just launched the whole thing on Friday, Friday night, and right now registration is going on. They have to go to the motopodchallenge.com website and they can register there. And they have to sign a liability release.

unknown 34:43

Why?

SPEAKER_08 34:44

Because that's it's a legal thing. It's it's to protect my ass and to protect everyone involved. That's why the Motorcycle Podcasters Challenge disappeared for a while, because uh they didn't want to they weren't sure what the the legalities of everything were. They were afraid that there would have been uh the potential for lawsuits if somebody got hurt and yada yada. So doing in and doing some research, I went all uh crazy looking for information. At one point I thought I was gonna have to register as an LLC to run this. And registering as an LLC in the state of California costs like $250. And it makes me it would make me a business. But seeing how there's no money being transferred, there's no exchange of money, there's no goods for sale, there is no business address, there's nothing uh that would indicate that this is a business because there's no money being exchanged anywhere. Uh it was determined that there was no need for me to be an LLC. So uh at most, the the best I had to do was create the uh liability waiver that everybody would have to sign, and it's quite extensive. It outlines every farting little thing, and people just have to sign it, you know, initial certain spots, sign it, and boom, they're done, and that's it. And my ass is covered and everybody else's ass is covered. So anyway, so all they have to do is just sign up, and then when they do, they'll either sign up as a teammate, you know, as on a team, or they're gonna sign up solo. And the solo and team competitors do not compete against each other. It's like team against team. But right now I have and this is kind of like I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

Indicative of what the situation really is?

SPEAKER_08 36:37

No, it's I I I I can't help but feel like this is just like a typical anything I anytime I get involved with something, it fails miserably. I don't know why, but um right now, I mean I realize it's only been a few days. We've only got one solo competitor signed up. And I've Chris Conway. Well, Chris is uh is signed up, he's he's signed up on a team. So I got two teams right now with uh the minimum, each team can have a minimum of three riders. So I have two teams with the minimum requirement. And so like, uh and registration closes on June 20th.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

And when did everything start? Start.

SPEAKER_08 37:25

It starts July 1st and goes through August 30th. So people have basically two months to ride around and collect all this information, and uh I will give weekly updates and I've asked people to, you know, give me a logo or team photos or whatever. And then they're at that's coming in. I've already got one team logo that was generated using AI. So it's pretty cool. I mean, I I I I there is a lot of interest. Uh people do want to do it, but people are so removed from it because it's been so many years that it's it's slow getting out to everybody. But I'm hoping that as the days, weeks go on before the uh closing uh that you know more people get involved and show interest. I'm gonna be mentioning this at the next hog meeting, which is on June 1st. Uh we'll be bringing is it June 1st?

unknown 38:21

No.

SPEAKER_04 38:21

No, no, no, no. Next Monday is June 1st. Is it really? Wow.

SPEAKER_08 38:26

Next Monday's June 1st. It'll be the 6th. It'll be next that yeah, next Saturday. I will be well Saturday from now, but yeah, I'm gonna bring it there and see if I can get drum up some interest from that. But you know, the more the merrier, obviously. And we're not doing the trophy thing anymore. The prizes are this. The prizes are you get to brag. And and I will and I will put your team picture on the landing page of the website. That's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_04 38:52

And you have a link on the website for this as well?

SPEAKER_08 38:54

Yeah, that's there's the website right there. Motorcycle Podcasters Challenge. And it's it's it you know, it's it's really simple. I just there's all kinds of information on here. There's the rules, of course. Everybody can check out the rules on how the how it all happens, what happens, and what's required. Oh, you should put it on Facebook. Uh it is. It's on the motor on the Motorcycle Podcasters Challenge uh Facebook group page. And of course, I make pay uh posts there on the pages all the time. Gonna have standings and stats, and there's gonna be photos and uh the correct way to do it. See, everybody gets their rider card and the motorcycle and the oddity. That's whatever it is in the picture. Uh it's fully it's it's very simple. Um and it's hopefully that everybody gets involved and it'll be a good time. We'll see. But that's about it. That's what's going on with that. Are you guys gonna join? You gotta sign up?

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_05 39:55

Well, you're not a joint. You're not a joiny kind of guy. Yeah, no, you're not a joining kind of guy. I'm not a joint.

SPEAKER_09 40:01

I mean is that I don't know. Is that weird if we do?

SPEAKER_08 40:07

Why would it be weird? Well, I mean But put it this way. I am not participating because I just I'm just not gonna have time to, because I'm gonna be keeping track of all this stuff. Now, because yeah, maybe I do I do have access to the website and I can see where all the roadside oddities are, and I can go out there like that. But as far as it goes for the bonus attractions, I won't know what they are until the day I release them because AI is selecting the bonus attractions.

SPEAKER_09 40:38

Oh my god, I can't wait till it pick suitors.

SPEAKER_08 40:41

So, yeah, so when AI selects that, it's like, okay, here's a retract. That there's no advantage or disadvantage of me participating or any or our podcast participating. It doesn't matter. Because we're all participating, we're all going against each other, and the idea is to get as many of these attractions as you can. Now, you take a guy like Chris Connolly, for example, this guy is gonna he's gonna go all over creation and get as many as he can, you know. And then you take somebody like me, I mean, within a half hour of riding, I can get two. So, in order for me to really collect any of these, I have to drive I have to ride some distance. So, um yeah, I I if you guys want to get involved, it go right ahead. It doesn't cost anything, you know, just it doesn't cost anything to get involved. Um I did put I did in the rules, I did put you know, motorcycles. Can this participate? Motorcycles, uh, scooters, uh, trikes, and spiders, and you know, motorcycles with side cars. You know, that's fine. But who cannot participate is cars, uh, you know, SUVs, trucks, um, and slingshots.

SPEAKER_04 41:56

And I can I can basically tow my bike bike places and well.

SPEAKER_07 42:03

I'd rather you didn't.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

But uh I mean well, you said you need a picture of the bike next to the see now, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 42:13

See now I got now I uh see uh I now I gotta go and alter the rules now to say, and do not tow your motorcycle on a trailer.

SPEAKER_10 42:21

I'm just joking, dude.

SPEAKER_08 42:22

No, you're not. But yeah, I hope uh yeah, like I said, it's it's uh yeah, but like I said, if you guys wanted to get involved, and that's fine, sure, go ahead. But uh I I probably more than likely I'm not gonna be involved, and like I said, it doesn't really matter, even if I did, I have no advantage over anyone else. Uh even if I did. Right, right, right. I have to do that. There's no advantage at all. Um for example, like there's the um the Tour of Honor. Now the Tour of Honor, the the the idea behind that is when you sign up and pay, I think it's like $175 to sign up for the Tour of Honor. But you know, correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's $175, and then they send you a uh a t-shirt and they send you a uh they call it a flag, but it's like a it's like a towel, like a 12 by 12 towel with a a number on it, whatever the number is. And when you go with the Tour of Honor, the idea of that is you have to go to memorials for military memorials or military sites and take a photograph of your flag in the picture. In your motorcycle as well. So uh and it that runs all year long. That starts at the end.

SPEAKER_04 43:39

Well, you can't ride your motorcycle up to somebody's attraction.

SPEAKER_08 43:42

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 43:42

The thing is, in that So how do you how do you prove that?

SPEAKER_08 43:45

Well, what you do in that particular case, like I like I've explained to everybody, what you do in that case is you take a picture of your rider card and your motorcycle in front of the building that it's in. Then, if you will, if you can, if possible, if it's open, go inside. And take a photograph of the whatever the attraction is and your rider card together. So it's it's really simple for everybody to do. And and yeah, and even with like the Tour of Honor, for example, there are some cases where uh the riders can't get close to whatever the whatever it is they're gonna take a picture of. So they're instructed to put their flag as close as they can to it and take a photograph of it that way. Yeah. So it's gonna be fun. You know, uh it's everybody's got two months to do it, and you know, we'll see what happens. So getting back to just to so you have an idea, come on. Give me the page, give me the photos.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

And in this particular case, like I had said before, if you can't take a shutter stuff like for example, this picture right here.

SPEAKER_08 44:57

Uh there's the attraction, and I couldn't I couldn't say I couldn't park close to it, so I just took my the rider card and the attraction. And then uh what would happen is you go back outside and you take a photograph of the building and your motorcycle and a rider card. That's what you see. Nice. Yeah. So it works. It works. And so far I've got a lot of like I said, I've got a lot of interest, but not a lot of people signed up just yet. So we'll see what happens. I Well, it's brand new. It's brand new, and it's uh it's gonna take time. You know, someone suggested it may take a couple years for it to uh Well, because it's gonna be something.

SPEAKER_09 45:32

You know, the other thing that's tough too is like people may be interested, but people may have plans this year.

SPEAKER_10 45:38

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 45:39

But if they know it's gonna be a consistent thing, you know, they can say, Well, I can't do it this year, but it's definitely something I'll look to do next year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 45:47

Yeah, so we'll see what happens. You know, uh that's it. You know, that's what's going on. Hey, uh uh, we want to talk about a couple Harley things. You guys want to talk about some Harley things? Hey, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

No, just motorcycle mentioned. We don't stop talking about.

SPEAKER_08 46:01

We want to talk about some lighthouse stuff? Golf. Tim's been playing golf.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

Golf and lighthouses. Tim's been playing golf.

SPEAKER_08 46:07

No, because Justin wants to know how well you've been playing.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

He doesn't care.

SPEAKER_08 46:10

Right, Justin? You really want to know.

SPEAKER_09 46:12

You don't care. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm sitting here with baited breath. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_08 46:18

Tell him how you did today.

SPEAKER_09 46:19

I had an 82. Come on, baby. That's good. Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_06 46:24

Tell him what you shot last week.

SPEAKER_09 46:25

As long as you didn't play nine holes, I'm very proud of you. No, last week I had an 8 and 95, and it would have been bad. Bad day. Bad day. Any day under 100 is a good day.

SPEAKER_08 46:38

Yeah, see. Now Tim's goal is to play an entire game with one ball.

SPEAKER_09 46:43

Yeah, well, that's that ship sails for me by the end of the second hole.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

Damn, bro. The problem is, is I always get to like the ninth hole, and that's when I lose the ball. And then and then I get there the next thing I lose the ball on the eighteenth hole. It's like I lose two. It's always like something stupid. Wow.

SPEAKER_06 47:08

Well, hey, you know, it could be.

SPEAKER_04 47:10

Hey, did how come you're not talking about your uh trip down to motorcycle um to Myrtle Beach?

SPEAKER_08 47:16

Oh, Myrtle Beach. Yeah, I went down to Myrtle Beach bike week last week. I took uh I took a ride down. I spent an entire day cruising around, uh, walking around the expos. I went down to Murals Inlet um on Friday last week. And it took me an hour to get a little over an hour to get there, and traffic was marginally in you know horrible. And uh I got to ride if you guys you guys have never been down to Murals Inlet. And let me tell you this, if you've never been to Murals Inlet, and here in South Carolina, uh there are just on on that one strip, Murals Inlet, it's I I I have to say it's like maybe five miles long.

SPEAKER_00 48:02

At least not five miles.

SPEAKER_08 48:04

There has to be at least 25 restaurants and bars along that strip right there. So if you go hungry while you're there, it's your own fault. But uh I stopped at the beaver bar first, and I walked around, they had a huge expo there. Uh the highlight for me was the uh Philly pretzel factory had a booth there. Oh, really? Yes, they had a booth there? They had a booth there, and I was very pleased with that. So that's where I had my lunch. I had a uh Philly pretzel and a Coke. So that was my uh that was the highlight of my day right there.

SPEAKER_04 48:42

Did you get a pizza pretzel? I mean a pizza pizza pretzel?

SPEAKER_08 48:45

No, they didn't have a pizza pretzel. Yes, and boys and girls, there is such a thing as a pizza pretzel. Did you ever have a pizza pretzel, guys? A pizza pretzel no. Okay. I I don't know if it's everywhere, but I know that uh uh a Philly pretzel factory just opened in uh North Moodle Beach. And I went down here uh what two weeks ago when Jenna was down from Ohio?

SPEAKER_04 49:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_08 49:14

So and uh her and I were in there, and I just happened to look over and they had this these pizzas in there. And I said to the girl behind the counter, what's up with the pizzas? She goes, Well, they're pizza pretzels. Pretzel pizza pretzel pizzas. I was like, Really? Well, I can't walk out without one, right?

SPEAKER_06 49:32

Gotta get one. So gotta get one.

SPEAKER_08 49:36

So I got that, and what, 25 pretzels I bought also? So damn man. That I tell you what, I don't know if the Chris, you've never been to the Philly pretzel factory. That's around the corner from you. Very disappointed.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Yeah, I can't, uh I think the the only time I ever went there is when you or Tim were up here and we went there.

SPEAKER_08 49:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Um and that was years ago.

SPEAKER_08 49:57

I would uh I would make the trip over there. Sorry, I'm yawning. I would just go over there and see if they have uh a pretzel pizza. If they do, you gotta get it because it is phenomenal. It is absolutely awesome. So anyway, so I went to the so after uh I wandered around in at the beaver bar for a while looking at all the stuff and the custom bikes, there's there had to be 20 or 30 of the big wheel baggers there.

SPEAKER_09 50:28

Yeah, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_08 50:29

You know, and I did see a couple guys ri actually riding around on them, so I guess they actually do work. You know.

SPEAKER_09 50:38

I know they definitely, you know. They they look cool.

SPEAKER_08 50:41

I I don't know how they handle or how they ride, but um yeah, they all have most of them have hydraulic suspension because they sit so low to the ground.

SPEAKER_09 50:51

Too many pizza pretzels you're going in. Yeah, I may be all the carbs. You need a decaf tea.

SPEAKER_08 50:57

All the c all all the carbs, you know. Do it.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

Um you heard that? Do it.

unknown 51:05

Oh, fiddle sticks.

SPEAKER_04 51:07

So fiddle sticks.

SPEAKER_08 51:10

Anyway, but um yeah, and then and across the street from the beaver bar there was uh another expo happening over there. So and if you want to if you had a hankering to spend money, that's the place to be. So but from there I went I walked up the street. Uh a short walk.

SPEAKER_09 51:31

Yeah, it'd be a short trip.

SPEAKER_08 51:32

Yeah. You know what cracks me up about events like this, uh, even Sturgis, for example, and Americaid, why don't they probably one of the things that would be the mo a really big suc success at an event like that would be a freaking swap meet. Why why don't they do this? It's just it baffles me.

SPEAKER_09 51:59

I am I imagine that somewhere it may not be held by the whatever you want to call it, the rally promoter.

SPEAKER_08 52:14

Yeah, the organizers of the rallying.

SPEAKER_09 52:16

Yeah, but like I'm pretty sure when I was out I want to say I can't I can't remember if it was Sturgis or Daytona, but I feel like there was definitely a swap meet that was there, whether it was like, you know, quote unquote sanctioned as part of the event or just happening in conjunction because of, you know.

SPEAKER_08 52:38

I I don't I don't know, man. I'm just thinking this would be a great opportunity for people to look for parts for their bike and just you know.

SPEAKER_09 52:48

It's probably just easier to do it online.

SPEAKER_10 52:50

I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 52:51

You know, because the thing is like you'd have to fucking cart a trailer full of shit down there, and then if you rode down there, where are you putting it? You can't even take it home.

SPEAKER_08 52:59

Well, you gotta well, true, but you have you gotta go. I would think that from what I gather, again, especially for Myrtle Beach Bike Week, the majority of the people who show up there, they're either locals who live close by, and I don't think, and even if anybody is coming from a long distance from out of state, likely they're probably trailering their bike in.

SPEAKER_04 53:23

I I I can't I don't see I don't think they're trailing their bike down to Middle Beach, though. I don't know. I don't think Myrtle Beach warrants that it's not like you're going out to uh Sturgis where you're in the middle of nowhere.

SPEAKER_03 53:37

You know, I think you know what?

SPEAKER_01 53:39

You gotta look at Sturgis, though. Everything is is in one space, it's very busy. Myrtle Myrtle Beach is until I went down again, I didn't realize it was it's just spread out amongst places. It's not like the whole road is covered. Right, right, right. Exactly. It's all that's why I would say I don't think trailing is a common thing.

SPEAKER_08 53:58

I don't know. I I I just either regard. But again, going back to like you know, if now all these vendors that are there. Now they're they're they're not selling small stuff. So if you go there and you say, Yeah, like I want to buy these wheels. Oh I'm sure they'll ship them. Yeah, yeah, they'll ship. Same thing with uh with a swamp meet. Oh my god, the success that would be such a success. But anyway, so from from there, uh from the beaver bar, I walked up to the bar called Suckbang Blow. And I walked around there. That place is immense. My God, that place is huge. And they had uh Jackal was actually gonna be playing there that night. Uh yeah, they were gonna be playing there, and they had the place was mobbed. Oh my god. There were so many people there. And it was they had a parking lot there. There had to be, in that parking lot alone, there had to be three, maybe four hundred bikes. Wow. Yeah. It just mobbed. But uh from there I left there and I rode up to now uh Harley Davidson South and Harley Davidson North both had uh an expo going on and they had test rides and things like that happened. I didn't stop at either one of those places, but uh as I understood, I was told by uh somebody who this was just very interesting, by the way, uh that the the city issued uh new uh permits for the rally. So the rally ended up back at uh Barefoot Landing, uh which it was never at before, like a few years ago, but then they changed the permit. That's right, the permit for the rally used to be was was ten days, then they knocked it down to seven, and that killed off a lot of vendors. But they increased it back to ten because they realized how much money they lost. And so it was back at Barefoot Landing, not as big as it used to be. Uh there used to be hundreds of vendors at Barefoot Landing, and it was just it was very small. There wasn't there's maybe like maybe 20 vendors. You know. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 56:06

Yes. A lot of these golf courses are weird and weird. I'm just sorry to get off the subject. That's right. But a lot, yeah. A lot of these places they sell their hot dogs for twelve to fifteen dollars. Could you imagine spending fifteen dollars for one hot dog? Well, not about a fun and a hot dog. Oh, it's I think it's cheaper. I think it's cheaper to go to a football game than it is to get a hot dog at these golf places.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Well, you wanna know why? Because it's probably considered, I mean, that's something like that. It's it m uh what's the word I'm looking for? It it's it's a low thing. They don't think a lot of people are gonna just eat there so that they don't they charge.

SPEAKER_04 56:48

You don't want business, then that's what you get, right? You're gonna have a rotten lot of rotten hot dogs because everybody's buying them.

SPEAKER_08 56:54

Well, just as an example, that pretzel and that coke that I had from the Philly pretzel factory booth down there at the the beaver bar, that cost me sixteen dollars. For a pretzel and a coke. Sixteen dollars. Uh that's a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:09

That's eight dollars a uh uh a thing.

SPEAKER_08 57:11

It's it's there's no there's no need for that. I mean, this is a good thing. Food in general, it's price gallery.

SPEAKER_09 57:18

I don't care if you buy it at the grocery store or in a restaurant, food in general like is just crazy. Yeah, well, I mean You know, it's funny because like you know, like when you're when you were like a kid and like you'd listen to like you know your grandpa be like, I remember when bread was a nickel, and you're like, oh my god, you know what I mean? Now you're like you're like you find yourself doing shit like that.

SPEAKER_10 57:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 57:42

And you're like, it wasn't that long ago. You're like, I remember when bread was fucking you know like $299, and now it's like you pick up a loaf of bread and it's like, how is this fucking $47?

SPEAKER_01 57:54

That's me every time I go shopping. I'm like, I spent how much and I got five things. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_09 58:02

You're going for deodorant, you're like, how did I spend two hundred dollars? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 58:05

Well, I I can remember back in 1985. Well, 84, 85. Um I was I I did not make a lot of money back then. And it's like I I just give you an I got my paycheck was three hundred and fifty dollars every two weeks. Okay. But it's all relative, though. Well, it's all relative, right? But but my rent was three hundred and fifty dollars. So one paycheck did that, and my car payment was $125. So I didn't have a lot of money to last me, all right?

SPEAKER_09 58:37

So you weren't buying $15 hot dogs. I was not.

SPEAKER_08 58:39

I would go to Pathmark. You guys remember Pathmark, the food store, and I would go to their no-frill section and I would buy enough TV dinners to last me like 18 days. Right? So and I could I could I could go in there with $20 and walk out with 18 TV dinners or chicken pot pies, whatever. And then and enough left over to buy uh two-liter bottles of coke. So yeah, that's this is yeah. You can't do that now. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_09 59:16

My god. No. You can't a $20 a $20 bill might as well be a single.

SPEAKER_07 59:26

Oh my god, can you imagine?

SPEAKER_01 59:28

Sadly, you're right. Yeah, $20 might be a big thing. Pretty soon they're gonna get rid of the dollar bill.

SPEAKER_08 59:32

How much is how much is gas by you guys up north?

SPEAKER_01 59:36

$475. Yeah, $4.75. It keeps going like every few days it like it goes up 10 cents, drops 10 cents, goes up 10 cents. It's fucking weird.

SPEAKER_08 59:44

Uh I was out today and I saw it for $3.96 over here by me.

SPEAKER_09 59:53

How much water did they put in it? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

You can still go to the no names around us. Uh you know, like I I forget, you know, there I saw one as a $4.29, uh $4.30.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:08

It's coming down. It's coming down.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

Wait till summertime. It's the prices are gonna jack for two days.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:14

Well, it's officially it's summertime now.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

You know, I ride the I ride the bike and I put the the premium stuff in it, and that's $530 now. Right?

SPEAKER_08 1:00:23

I paid $549 last week when I filled up uh for the premium.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:27

I put gas in my truck yesterday and it was over $80. Oh man, really?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:33

Well, you got a truck again? Yeah. Yeah, I've had a truck. What how since when? What? Since when?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

You because you got a you got rid of the truck because you couldn't afford it anymore, and then you got a car, and that's the last we heard. We didn't know.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:47

Well no, I yeah, but that I mean that I mean shit, that was a couple years ago. Like that was like four years ago or something that I got rid of. Yeah, so I only had the car for like two years while I was coming up.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:01

I I I got rid of it to eliminate the payment.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:05

But I got rid of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:06

That was you were financing a truck at the time.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:09

Yeah, that was like a two-year stint.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:11

Okay. And so what do you got now?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:14

Well, I had I had a Chevy Colorado diesel, and I actually did like that, but it was too hard to get parts when things went wrong. Uh so I got rid of that, and then now I have another RAM. Dog RAM.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

Brand new?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:34

Nah, it's a 22. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:38

That's relatively. That's nice. That's the one of the trucks I was looking at.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:41

Is it the 1500? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

But I've had I've had that for.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:47

I mean, you don't even know how you didn't know.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:52

That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:52

Yeah, no, I mean it's not like Well, you gotta remember we ha we haven't podcasted in quite a while, so things can be. Well, you didn't have it when we came to see you that one day when we stayed in the middle of the case.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:06

I had to Colorado then, I think.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:08

Oh, okay. See, you're supposed to keep us updated on your vehicles. Yes, right.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:13

You know what I'm gonna do? I'll send you guys a monthly newsletter of changes in my life.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:17

Please. Please do, yes. Please.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

We need to let everyone know what you're up to.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:22

What bone you've broken.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:24

I know, Jesus Christ. What what what uh joint you're getting replaced? I know. Ridiculous. What medicines I'm on, I know. We're we're like we're like the fucking uh we're like the arthritis men.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:39

Motorcycle arthritis men.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:45

But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:46

Uh I guess we could talk a couple little Harley things, why don't I? I mean what the hell? I mean, we might as well, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:53

Uh how about when we start talking about motorcycles.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:56

Yeah, that's then you know shit's going weird when we start doing that, right? So uh this is uh seven surprising Harley Davidson products that are not motorcycles. Aside from t-shirts and jackets and shoes. We're not we're not talking that, we're just talking about other things. Uh we're gonna start off with golf carts. Harley Davidson was actually producing for two decades. That's cool. Harley Davidson was quietly a player in the golf cart industry. Beginning in the early 1960s, the company produced gasoline-powered golf carts that were used not only on golf courses, but also in industrial facilities and campuses. These carts were known for simple two-stroke engines and durable construction. Harley eventually sold the division in the early 1980s, but for many years it represented one of the brand's most successful ventures outside of motorcycles. They're pretty cool looking, ain't they? Need needs apes. Snowmobiles. During the snowmobile boom of the early 70s, Harley decided to enter the winter recreation market. The company produced several sled models before exiting the segment only after a few seasons. The machines were competitive for their time, but the market quickly became crowded with established brands, and by the mid-1970s, Harley abandoned the project, leaving its snowmobiles as one of the company's most unusual side ventures. Of course, as you can see, these were the AMF years that they did.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:30

Yeah, I noticed that I was just gonna say that the color I can tell right off the bat.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:33

Yeah, you could see the uh AMF logo on there. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

That was a problem back in the AMF years, is that they were they weren't paying attention so much to the motorcycles anymore. They were making all this shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

That's why uh Harley uh Harley's ever always gotten picked off and it picked on because it came from the AMF ideas.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:51

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

Yep, right.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:52

Uh but the AMF colors AMF colors.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

Oh, the you know, the they were shit back then. Those motorcycles had a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:00

Why you know has friends.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:03

Exactly. Yeah. And uh video games and arcade games. I've seen that in an arcade. I have never seen this in a Harley Brand has even appeared in arcades. One of the most notable examples is Harley Davidson and LA Riders, an arcade racing game released by Sega in the 1990s. Now, players sat on a full-size motorcycle controller and raced through stylized American highways. It wasn't just a video game, it was a full physical experience designed to simulate the ride sensation of riding. Now, Harley Davidson has also appeared in home console titles. One of the best known examples is Harley Davidson Race Across America, released in the late 1980s. The game put players behind the handlebars of a Harley touring bike across the United States. It was an early example of the brand expanding into digital entertainment decades before gaming tie ins became common in the auto industry. I never saw one of those. I never saw one of those. That's pretty cool though. Interesting. Uh furniture. Did you know this? Walk into a Harley dealership or theme bar, and you'll quickly realize the company sells far more than riding gear. The brand licenses a wide range of furniture, including bar stools, chairs, cabinets, and garage decor. Most of these pieces incorporate the iconic bar and shield logo and industrial styling.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:26

So basically, it's not produced by Harley. It's produced by people using the Harley name.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:32

Yeah, it's it's branded.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:35

Yeah, it's got the Harley branding on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:37

Licensing. Licensing. Right, that's the word. Licensing. Um refrigerators and kitchen appliances. Oh, nice. One of the most unexpected items in Harley's catalog is kitchen equipment. Through licensing deals, the brand has appeared on refrigerators, coolers, and other appliances. These products often lean heavily into the company's visual identity, featuring black finishes, chrome accents, and large logos that make them look more like garage equipment than traditional kitchen appliances. I don't know. I would love to have one of those Harley Davidson refrigerators. That looks cool. That looks pretty neat. I need a new toaster. There you go. Toaster. And uh fragrance and colognes.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:20

Oh wow, what would that smell like? Oil. It smelled like Vol. Oil and gasoline.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:28

This one version is transmission from the motorcycles and cologne might seem like an odd combination, but Harley Davidson has released multiple fragrances over the years aimed at its loyal fan base. The scents typically emphasize woody, smoky, or leather-inspired notes and attempt to translate the brand's rugged image into a wearable product. For fans, it's a way to carry the brand identity even when they're not near a motorcycle. I don't know about that. And uh home decor and collectibles. That you can see in any st in any Harley shop you go to, you can see the stuff. You know, glasses, glassware, and you name it, they have it, you know. So licensing as a couple of things.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:13

Is that a corpse?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:14

That's either a carpet or a tower.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:16

Or a mat. Or is that a mat? It could be a tree mat.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:20

Yeah, it could be uh I don't know what it is, actually. It's really hard to tell from this picture. But uh yeah. Home items, neon signs, wall clocks, bedding, rugs. For many enthusiasts, decorating a garage or basement with branded items becomes part of the broader Harley lifestyle. The result is merchandise catalog, sometimes resembling a home decor store as much as a motorcycle brand. Funny that this should say that is because I have a Harley Davidson clock over my door.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:49

Nice.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:50

So yeah, I mean that's some of the kooky things that Harley has gotten into over the years. And now we're gonna touch on this one thing. Seven times Harley Davidson strayed from tradition. They uh built the V-Rod. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:09

That was what with Porsche, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:09:10

Uh Porsche helped them design the engine. Do you know? Did you ever guys watch ever watch this uh the special? You can uh on that's on YouTube you can how about the development of the V-Rod?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:22

Wasn't the oil in the frame? Like the frame was used or something like that? The frame of that bike was used in the room.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:27

No, I don't I no that wasn't that, but uh that Buell did that. Buell had the oil in the frame. Which is pretty bizarre. But uh yeah, if you get a chance, go on uh YouTube and look up uh Harley Davidson's creation of the V Rod. And it's a really cool I think it's almost an hour long, but it's really cool documentary on how they developed the V Rod, what brought it all about, and how they did it. Really super interesting story. But yeah, this was one of those times where um uh and a lot of you guys can even uh go with this, is that uh a lot of Harley guys just did not like it. A lot of the old school dudes just thought it was uh way too much of a departure for the brand to go into something like this. The uh second time that did, we got the the live wire. What do you guys what are you guys' thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:22

It's the way society is going nowadays, so everybody's gonna jump on the bandwagon and try to be the first ones to do it and do it within reason and I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:32

I I thought the bike was awesome. The couple times that I rode it, I thought it was fantastic. A lot of fun. Really a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:39

It's definitely a unique uh experience.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:42

Definitely a unique experience.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:44

You know, now that they busted out into their own brand, it's uh pretty cool. I liked it. And uh the super bike experiment, the VR 1000. Uh in the 1980s, Harley made an effort to compete in AMA superbike racing against brands like Honda Yamaha Dukati, but uh featured aluminum construction, fuel ejection, and all that. But yeah, they uh didn't get didn't stick with that for very long, but they should have. I think that'd be pretty pretty cool.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:14

They did stuff with Buell for a while too.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:16

Yeah, well that's what we're gonna get into next. Uh Buell. Buell partnership got weird in the best way. Harley Davidson's relationship with Buell Motorcycle Company produced some of the strangest motorcycles the company was ever associated with. Founded by former racer Eric Buell, the brand built lightweight sport bikes using modified Harley-derived V-twin engines. But the surrounding engineering was wildly unconventional. Fuel stored inside the frame, oil hidden in the swing arm, pruner, brake rotors, ultra shirt wheelbases, and aggressive chassis geometry.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

I'm surprised they didn't put the picture on me. I mean, the the one popular Bule is the uh the racer.

unknown 1:11:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:55

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:56

I I still see them around occasionally.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:58

You do you really? I I never see a Buell on the road, ever. I've never seen a Buell on Road.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:04

Not one like that, but the the you know, the crotch rocket, so to speak.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:07

Yeah. And of course, Harley got into the uh adventure uh bike market. And they're I just read that. Yeah, they're actually doing pretty good, I think. You know, the first couple years were a little rough. You know, uh 21, 22, and 23 were a little rough. 23 not so much, but the first two years were a little rough. They had issues. And uh now they're pretty much stable. You know, haven't heared much in the way of complaints now. And of course, then the touch screens and infotainment system took over the touring bikes. I will I have to tell you that I'm really not happy about that. Have you seen the the road glide and the street glide uh that that's out now? No. The what? The road glide or the street glide? Have you guys seen them?

SPEAKER_09 1:12:51

You said with like all the technology?

SPEAKER_08 1:12:53

Well, with all the tech, yeah. It's it's a m I mean it's the whole dash is just one big ass screen. Yeah. And not I'm not 100% crazy about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:04

I just think that uh you could see that coming, especially with those size bikes.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:09

Well, they they've had issues with it, and I I think they've got those issues solved, but they have it had issues with it, but it's uh it's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

They gotta be waterproof, you think you all.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:19

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:20

Oh, you know, when you ride a motorcycle, you're there's gonna be times you're gonna get caught in the rain. Yeah, I just can only L C D screen, you know, LED screen and thing, and can't be healthy for it to have water on it.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:31

Yeah, I'm sure well they obviously they are, you know, waterproof to a point, but I don't know really what their longevity is under sustained rains and things like that. And they also experimented experimented with the smaller urban bikes, as we know, the Street 500 and Street 750 uh were pretty much flops. You know, they were around, but uh nobody liked them. So but I mean they they did sell, but not as much as the Sportster sold, that's for sure. And by the way, rumors that the Sportster is coming back are a lie. The Sportster is they're not bringing back the Sportster. But even though the pizza guy, Tim and I were talking about this earlier, the pizza golf guy, he's making some changes, and uh he's stretching his uh his uh thrust, as you would say, into what he's gonna be doing with the company.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:24

And um That's not a Sportster, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_08 1:14:27

That right there is the uh no, that's the Street 500 or the Street 750.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:30

Yeah, I I know they're not bringing those pieces of shit. No, no, definitely not. They're they're gone, they're done with that. But uh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:37

But then but the new guy, the pizza guy, is uh making changes.

unknown 1:14:41

You know.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:42

Did you say he was taking lessons too?

SPEAKER_08 1:14:44

And yeah, I found out uh recently that the the new president who didn't ride a motorcycle when he took control of the company, he is now actually taking the riding lessons. He may have completed the course by now, but he was taking the Harley Davidson uh rider training course to learn how to ride a bike.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:02

It's funny, I just you had a pop-up here on uh shorts for a thing, and it says Harley Davidson's new boss wants to sell you a bike you can actually afford.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:10

Yep. He's uh pushing for uh sub-10,000 bikes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:15

That's the sports thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:18

Exactly. Right, exactly. But I did, Justin, for you, I I did want to uh bring up something for you, which you might find interesting, actually. All right, well there's all right uh on the Harley Davidson website uh Bergen Harley Davidson was featured as one of their articles.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:43

Oh really?

SPEAKER_08 1:15:44

Yeah, they featured uh Bergen Harley Davidson and the many of the people who work there. Yeah. Hang on, second, I'll just pop this right up here. So they actually uh interviewed uh several people and the owners and all it's a good article. It's on the more it's on the uh uh website, Harley Davidson website.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:06

Do you know any of those people? I know almost all of them.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:10

Yeah?

SPEAKER_09 1:16:11

Almost one or two new people that I don't know, but I know pretty much everybody in that picture.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

Nice. Nice. You still talk to anybody from back in the day or now? Yeah, sir.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:26

Yep, so uh they went on uh to talk about the uh the owner they talked with the owner and uh a couple of the people, the service manager and the people in there. Check out the article, it's pretty neat. Yeah. And they uh it's uh I thought it was very interesting. I and I thought of you right away. So you know all these people in these photographs?

SPEAKER_09 1:16:46

I do. In that picture I know everybody. Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:49

Okay, well, so yeah, there you go. So yeah, but check that out when you get a chance. Uh check out Bergen Harley Davidson, who we are very familiar with.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:57

And uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:59

Pretty cool, huh?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:01

Yeah, cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:03

All right, you guys got anything else you want to talk about? Uh you talk about the Stampede in uh Myrtle Beach. Stampede? You didn't see a Stampede in Myrtle Beach. Don't tell me that. Oh, oh, oh that! Yes, yes. Myrtle Beach black bike leak they call it, or something like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:20

Yes, in fact, in fact, as it turns out, that uh is a common theme.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:26

Um but so what what happened was there was one person started running and yelling, and everybody panicked and started doing the same thing, and it turned out, really?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:38

Like lemmings.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:39

Yeah, basically. That's what happened. One person started the whole stampede.

unknown 1:17:47

Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

Yeah, that's what you call the lemming effect.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:50

No way.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:51

One person started running and yelling and screaming, and everybody else followed along.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:55

Well, I don't know what he was yelling, though. He could have been yelling something like uh Ruman guns or something. He could have been yelling anything, and people bought into it and started running and created the stampede.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:07

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:08

19 people got hurt. Wow. No way. Wow. It has nothing to do with motorcycles, but it's it turns out turns out Ted was the one who started it.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:24

Wow. I didn't wow, holy crap. It's funny, I heard something went on, but it it didn't happen. It happened the week after Myrtle Beach uh the bike week happened. It happened the week after, so I didn't know. I didn't know if it was related or not. I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was, but yes, it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:40

It's part of it. It was part of Bike Week. Okay, shouldn't it? Black Bike Week. Oh, right. Okay. Um why they call it that, I don't know. I don't know. They could have their own name. It doesn't have to be like that. Yeah, that exactly. I think that's stupid. Yeah. I understand that, but why not just have a have a have a rally? Why does it have to be named black, white, Hispanic, or whatever? Just have a rally. Yeah, exactly. Right. It doesn't wonder. This would exclude people.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:12

It's all about division, you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:16

That means if I if I showed up when I get kicked out? Is that what you're right? I don't know. It's a silly. Absolutely right. Uh hey, if you want to support the show, get on over to Buy Us a Coffee. There's a link on the website if you want to support the show. And don't forget to sign up on our mailing list, of course. And uh check out the Ride with Ted videos on YouTube. Yeah. And uh I don't have that's pretty much it, you know. Uh so we're closing in with with within 25 episodes now of our 500th. And uh we will get together. For our 500th, we all the four of us will get together. We'll we'll come up to New Jersey and we'll do we'll do a uh an episode there.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:09

Now are we uh are you putting in line some uh guests too to call in?

SPEAKER_08 1:20:14

Uh I'll I'll spread the word and see if anybody wants to get involved with that and you know see if we can get some people to call in. That might be might be cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:21

I'd like to hear from Alonzo again. Yeah, perhaps. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:24

I don't know. I just you know, whoever wants to be a part of that, we can certainly haven't phone it in, so to speak. But uh how many years has it been now? Well, we're in our tenth year right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:35

Oh wow. Oh shit. It's hard to believe. And what? How long when did uh Justin first come in? A year later?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:41

Three years two? Year three third year.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:46

Third year.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:46

I was gonna say, I think didn't I I was at the episode that you did live in the beginning.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:54

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:55

But I didn't I wasn't a part of that. Right, right, no.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:00

You were I'm gonna have to go back, I believe you were like episode 100 something here.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:07

It's not that important, but just uh maybe not.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:16

Yeah, we're yeah, we're way back there now. Yeah, we're like certainly yeah, it was definitely in the 100s that you became part of the show permanently. I'll have to really like dig deeper into that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:27

But uh so.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:29

There you have it, there it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:30

There you have it, there it is. That's that. So we're info.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:34

Well we'll get it. We'll get it all taken care of, we'll set it up, we'll get something together, and we'll we'll do something stupid. We'll have we'll have a we'll have a pizza party thing. Pizza podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:45

I haven't had pizza since the last time I saw you guys. It's a theme. That's what we'll do.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:51

Alright, kids. I don't have anything else to go on. If you guys don't have anything else that we can go, we're gonna wrap this up.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:55

Are we gonna get pizza pretzels? Oh, dude! Pretzel pretzel pizza. Don't get them started. Don't get them started.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:02

We'll get pretzel pizzas. We're definitely gonna have that, all right? Alright, well, I'm Ted, your host. In the V2 Cafe with uh Tim Buck 2 and uh post the Joker nipples, dude. You never get tired of that, right? Never uh that's it. That's all we have going on. So if there's anything uh you guys want to say hello and all that stuff, just drop us a link. Like nobody sees you. Right, Chris, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:40

Uh ride like everybody sees you.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:42

Okay, Justin.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:44

They try to hide.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:47

Justin.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:50

Ride like Kim sees you, but nobody else. Did we lose Justin?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:54

Justin, you here? Yeah, his mic went out.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:57

Oh no, his mic went out? Oh God.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:02

There you are. Yeah. I think Justin is the new technical difficulty.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:09

Like your pizza pretzels are gonna get cold.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:15

Well, that's it, boys and girls. Thank you very much for listening. Episode 475 is in the can.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:21

Oh that is it.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:26

25 more to go to the 500th episode, and possibly even our 500,000th download. Let's make it all happen at the same time. That'd be bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:36

All right, we can get one million downloads, that'd be nice.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:40

So that's it for now. And uh remember, boys and girls, we say stupid crap and you don't have to.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:54

Who is your daddy? And what does he do?

unknown 1:23:58

Do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:59

Do it. Betty bought a button butter, but she said this butter's bitter. If I put it in my battery, it will make my battery bitter. So she went in better better butter. So this better. Betty botter, batter, bitter, better, butter.